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twetsel 22 points submitted 1 month ago

One trend among others i am seeing is fewer and fewer people standing up in F meeting and saying things like “I know this church is true” or “I know that Joseph Smith was a prophet” or “I know that the BofM is true” or ” I know that the one true Church has been restored.”

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Is this observation consistent with others’ experience or perception?

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Genuine question: I’m curious, are there active believing members here who refute these things? As far as I know, even the church acknowledges this stuff. If you can’t/don’t refute them, do these facts not sway your faith?

No offense or judgment intended. I just want to understand different perspectives. Like I said, I’m genuinely curious because I know there are members who are aware of these things but are unaffected by them and I would like to hear how or if they reconcile and/or structure their beliefs around these facts.

winnipegsoulhunter 7 points submitted 1 month ago

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However, there are indeed many members of religions that claim the positive influence of their religion on their life. Perception alone accounts for many many many decisions in life. I can’t ignore the genuine feelings of the religious faithful, and the benefits they perceive.

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Which is why, in my view, the church could completely repudiate Joseph Smith and still survive. There are so many amazing, wonderful people in the church. The church has so much wealth. The church people and the church wealth could be used to help so many people in the world, far beyond what is currently happening. Things like housing people, feeding the hungry, eradicating diseases, providing clean water, health care, hospitals, etc.

The church could back off of the “one true church” and transcend the messy (and, arguably, fraudulent) origins of the church and Joseph Smith. Many people would stick with the church if it simply focused on the positive impact in their lives. Some people may even return to the church if it backed off of the dogma, and instead focused on simply creating social networks that have a positive impact on people lives.

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You share common language with him, and in this context, he is providing arguments that seem logical to him, and perhaps even to you. But, invite him to tell those same stories to an articulate, well reasoned person not associated with the LDS faith, discover this and they’ll politely smile, and move on with their life, because this stuff is bonkers!! His whole argument is framed from a place that makes many assumptions. And if you argue those points, the dialogue gets so frustrating, that you both want to quit. It’s nauseating.

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